Are the Suns finally ready to trade Nash, hit rock bottom?

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Sometimes you do have to go through a cycle in this league, and that's the reality of it.

January 18, 2012 could one day be looked at as the date when the Phoenix Suns, as a franchise, saw its fortunes finally turned around.

It has nothing to do with the team's 91-88 win in New York over the Knicks, a victory that snapped a five-game losing streak and gave the team a victory over the player whose departure set in motion the events that led to this season's disaster.

No, what happened Wednesday didn't even happen in New York - sort of. A guest on Arizona Sports 620's Doug and Wolf, Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby said 18 words that could mean the team is finally, earnestly, ready to look towards the future.

"Sometimes you do have to go through a cycle in this league, and that's the reality of it," he said.

Maybe Babby was talking about the losing streak, which even the best teams are known to suffer through from time to time. Or, perhaps, he was talking about the nature of being a good team in the NBA, as the cycle usually looks something like this:

Be bad --> Get young talent --> Groom young talent --> Compete for a title --> Watch young talent leave, veterans age --> Blow it up --> Go back to step one.

The Suns went through this - sort of - to get where they are today. Their down period wasn't long, as they went from being a 29-win team in 2003 to winning 62 games in 2004, and haven't had consecutive losing seasons since the mid-80s.

Granted, losing big is no guarantee of future success, though it's generally the way to go in the NBA. The top five teams in each conference boast at least one player who was a top three selection in his respective draft class, with some of the best squads featuring multiple players of that ilk.

Pretty much, without at least one of these players the chances of winning a title are about as high as Alvin Gentry's faith in Josh Childress is strong.

The problem is, the Suns are not going to get that guy through free agency, and they don't exactly have the right mix of players with which to put together a respectable offer from.

No, if the Suns are going to get that top three pick it's going to be because they "earn" a top three selection, which means the team will need to be rather bad at some point in the future. There was a time when it seemed like the team was unwilling to sink that far, though now it may really be out of their hands.

Sometimes you do have to go through a cycle in this league, and that's the reality of it.

While no Suns fan in their right mind wants to see the Suns become the new-age Clippers, it's a smart enough group to understand how the NBA works. If the ultimate goal is to win a title, chances are the Suns will have to hit rock bottom. And sorry, folks, but they're not at that point. Yet.

As John Gambadoro pointed out, the Suns aren't likely to receive an appealing offer for Steve Nash. No team with loads of young talent will part with any of it for a veteran who will likely bolt at the end of the season, and the best teams in the league don't exactly have quality assets to send the Suns' way.

But moving Nash won't be about getting better, and, unfortunately, it probably shouldn't be about "freeing" the point guard, as Paul Calvisi wrote. Any trade will be designed in part to help the Suns bottom out as soon as possible. Sure, an extra draft pick would be nice, but a high selection in one of the most loaded drafts in years would do wonders for the team's rebuilding process.

In other words, the sooner the Suns bottom out, the sooner they can begin building back up. The Suns have never really done that - even under Jerry Colangelo - always instead choosing to swing a trade or sign free agents, hoping that would get them to the top. That hasn't really worked before, and the strategy isn't really an option now.

Sometimes you do have to go through a cycle in this league, and that's the reality of it.

It's a reality the Celtics' Danny Ainge has seemed to embrace, yet one the Suns have been slow to acknowledge. It appears that may no longer be the case anymore.

Good for them.

Adam Green is a columnist for ArizonaSports.com. He can be reached with your questions and comments by e-mail here, you can follow him on Twitter @theAdamGreen, or you can be friends with him on Facebook. All of Adam Green's past columns.

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  • Suns FO needs to explain its twisted strategy
    hugUhbear (January 19, 2012 3:01 pm)
    This shortened season is the perfect time to be bad. IT'S SHORTENED as in less games. Why not trade Nash before he leaves for a winner over the summer, when he is a FA. Nash defeats our ability to get a lottery pick. We need to rebuild!! What better way than a lottery pick?? What better season to suck than in a shortened season?? Why are not these points being discussed. Our FO is filled with RUBES
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  • Ask the T'Wolves, Nets, and Bobcats...
    TBC1977 (January 19, 2012 6:06 pm)
    ...how "being bad" year after year after year has worked out for them. The draft is a crap shoot. As much as I'd like to see the Suns have a top three pick, the reality is that it's still a gamble. For every Kevin Durant and Derrick Rose there's an Adam Morrison, Kwame Brown, and Darko Milicic. It's just the way it is. They're definitely between a rock and a hard place, but I wouldn't be so quick to assert that "being really bad" is such an automatic guarantee to future success. Anymore than winning only 29 games one year guarantees there's no way you'll win 62 the next. :)
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  • TBC 1977 - Don't you even read the articles
    hugUhbear (January 19, 2012 7:09 pm)
    your commenting on? Green's point is well made, "The top five teams in each conference boast at least one player who was a top three selection in his respective draft class, with some of the best squads featuring multiple players of that ilk" And of course we are not the Wolves, Nets, Clippers. Those teams have sucked for ages, we on the otherhand have a different history, awinning one. To get back to that winning tradition we need to get a high draft pick for the rebuilding process and Nash is in the way of that.
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  • TBC 1977 - Don't you even read the articles
    hugUhbear (January 19, 2012 7:10 pm)
    your commenting on? Green's point is well made, "The top five teams in each conference boast at least one player who was a top three selection in his respective draft class, with some of the best squads featuring multiple players of that ilk" And of course we are not the Wolves, Nets, Clippers. Those teams have sucked for ages, we on the otherhand have a different history, awinning one. To get back to that winning tradition we need to get a high draft pick for the rebuilding process and Nash is in the way of that.
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  • 1st Round pick is fantasy
    azgbayfan (January 19, 2012 7:50 pm)
    The thought that the Suns can get a high draft pick for Nash is pure fantasy. Not that he isn't worth it but no team is going to offer it. Listen to Gambo for once he is right. Nash is an unrestricted free agent after this year. A team could offer a high pick and then lose Nash after this year. Nobody is doing that. IT IS NOT HAPPENING!
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  • azgbayfan
    hugUhbear (January 19, 2012 10:41 pm)
    the high draft pick spoken of was not for Steve Nash. The high draft pick would be what the Suns would earn by losing games without Nash on this years team
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  • Suns
    Jim Sanson (January 19, 2012 11:32 pm)
    I am not watching you this year- not because you stink, but because you struck. We all are taking pay cuts and you are wanting pay increases. The suns needs new ownership. Keep the couch and the best players, and get a new owner.
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  • Keep Nash
    mesa mad man (January 20, 2012 6:53 am)
    I am all for trading Nash if we can get any kind of first round pick for him. Unfortunately, Gambo hit the nail on the head. The only teams that need him arent in a position to give back any sort of value. The PR hit that the organization would take from the general public for trading him in general would hurt much worse then not getting a second rounder for him.
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  • Well duh!
    Tennisgrandpa (January 20, 2012 8:23 am)
    First off, getting ready to hit bottom? THEY'RE FRICKIN THERE!! And all these people can go on and on about what to do with Nash but its Sarvers fault for hiring Kerr who was an idiot. You mean none of these guys couldn't see what was coming? Not signing Amare? Giving away Joe Johnson? Now, stuck with Nash and Hill who's value is sinking everyday? Signing Nash for what they signed him wasn't gunna be a problem for the future? The Suns have become the new old Cardinals. Congrats Sarver, idiot.
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  • If you look at the numbers
    JW L. (January 20, 2012 8:40 am)
    The NBA is still heavily weighted toward the large population states. If you are in a top 10 pop state, you have a 70% chance your team is in the playoffs. Below that you only have a 1/3 chance. Since the Suns are in a smaller population state, and since they have lost the Colangelos who could coax stars into coming here, the Suns better hope they can draft well...and should dump everyone that they dont see being on their team in 3 years.
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