EMPIRE OF THE SUNS

Considering the possibility the Suns make an NBA Draft-day trade

Jun 11, 2018, 6:52 AM | Updated: 9:12 am

Phoenix Suns general manager Ryan McDonough does an interview with The Doug & Wolf Show on 98.7...

Phoenix Suns general manager Ryan McDonough does an interview with The Doug & Wolf Show on 98.7 FM Arizona’s Sports Station on Friday, Feb. 16, 2018. (Matt Layman/Arizona Sports)

(Matt Layman/Arizona Sports)

The Phoenix Suns hold the Nos. 1, 16, 31 and 59 picks in the 2018 NBA Draft.

It’s unlikely they will want even three rookies making the roster next season, making the first three of those picks potential trade bait. With a few young players on the roster, plus a nice collection of future picks to go along with the 2018 selection, general manager Ryan McDonough has the ability to move up and down the draft at a few spots.

What are the chances McDonough makes a move on draft day? We’ll discuss how the Suns might act on draft night with the expectation that they want to make moves to speed up their current timeline.

Kevin Zimmerman: I’m imagining McDonough jamming out to T-Pain’s “Up, down” when he gets to the lyric, “I ain’t got no problem spending all of my money,” and getting an itchy trigger finger. Let’s start at the top of the draft, where the speculation has led to discussion about the Suns dealing that No. 1 pick for Kawhi Leonard and Karl-Anthony Towns. That would certainly be a way to spend all of the money.

For one, I don’t think either of those players gets moved this summer. And in a draft with two players that could be very good very soon, I think there is zero reason to trade the top pick.

Kellan, what are your thoughts on the likelihood of moving No. 1 for a young star or even trading down?

Kellan Olson: Let’s start by saying that the No. 1 overall pick, Josh Jackson and Devin Booker as the foundation of a core is undoubtedly at least a playoff team at its apex, potentially more. With that in mind, the Suns have made it abundantly clear they want to have at least a double-digit win turnaround from this season’s 21 and Booker shares the same aspirations.

Phoenix can’t win over 35 games without a big trade or free agent signing, and as we’ve endlessly discussed in this space since McDonough arrived, he’s been chasing that young or in his prime star. Despite how strongly I feel about both Luka Doncic and Deandre Ayton’s outlooks as prospects, there’s no such thing as a “guarantee” or “can’t miss” prospect.

If an All-NBA caliber guy in his prime or approaching his prime is available for that pick, go get him. If Leonard wants to stay and re-sign with Phoenix, go get him. If Towns is available, go get him.

I’m not worried about the Suns spending $50-60 million on Booker and one of those guys.

As far as trading down, I think it’s lunacy unless you know for a fact the Sacramento Kings are taking one of the two top prospects the Suns value less and you can squeeze out extra assets. Just get the guy.

Where do you stand on all this?

Zimmerman: OK, if I play along and one of those two players are available, there’s no doubt you go with the established player over the No. 1 pick. I know Suns fans love Ayton and could be scared from the Brandon Knight trade, but the fact is that a realistic positive for Ayton looks, well, just like Towns. And that’s years down the road. If Towns on the table, you try to work out a reasonable trade that includes more than the pick and pay the man.

Speaking of being realistic, I’m betting the Suns hang onto the top overall pick.

But the No. 16 pick? I think there are many options here, and I’m not sure what a mid-first is worth in terms of acquiring a starting-caliber veterans to improve the team now. Could it be a swing-piece in a bigger package that includes a current Suns player or a future first? That’s more likely.

I’m guessing the Suns will consider shifting up or down attempting to reach up in the draft if a prospect falls or move down to snap up, say, another future first-round draft pick.

Give me a scenario where Phoenix sees a reason to package No. 16 and perhaps the No. 31 pick and/or a role player (I am sorry you’re being brought into this, Troy Daniels) to leap into the top-12. The Clippers do have two back-to-back picks at 12 and 13, so maybe they’re an option.

Olson: Stick with me here.

Per Brian Windhorst of ESPN, his sentiment is the Cleveland Cavaliers think LeBron James is leaving. They don’t know, but they think.

With that in mind, the players they have signed through next year that are under 25 years old are Cedi Osman and Ante Zizic. Oh, and they don’t have another first-round pick until 2020 and no second-round pick until 2021.

How does T.J. Warren, Nos. 16, 31 and the protected first-round pick from the Milwaukee Bucks for the eighth overall pick sound? If that’s too little or one side doesn’t want Warren in the deal, the Suns have more picks to offer they don’t need with such a young roster.

At that spot, there’s going to be a game-changing prospect available.

Could Trae Young be available at that spot to be Ayton’s point guard as we burn the notion of defense to the ground? How about Michael Porter Jr. as a stretch four for either Doncic or Ayton? If the Suns go Doncic, there’s no better player to pair with him in terms of skill symmetry than Wendell Carter Jr. What about getting rid of Warren and adding a more modern two-way wing instead, like Mikal or Miles Bridges?

That’s the spot I like, but the bottom line is the Suns have more than enough assets to move up and in the 7-12 range, where there’s going to be a name worth moving up for.

Any spot stand out to you? Or, do you even think trading down from No. 16 is a move worth considering (*gasp*)?

Zimmerman: Honestly, I have a feeling that one of the Bridges’, who are outside what we think are the top-eight players, could fall to 10 or 11, where a lesser package could help Phoenix move up.

I also think sliding up to a Clippers pick wouldn’t cost as much — but then you’re dealing with a player like Kentucky point guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, who could theoretically slide to 16.

I could see a trade-down only for two reasons. There are NBA vets involved in a deal or the Suns just want to acquire a future pick and grab a draft-and-stash/project player like Elie Okobo or Dzanan Musa. Okobo said he wants to come over next year but could maybe spend some time in Prescott Valley until he’s ready to contribute.

Musa staying overseas would keep a bit of salary off the cap while giving them a future player or trade chip.

At the end of the day, the Suns could get a relatively talented player at 31, so I think 16 is the most likely to be moved.

The Suns said they’re going to be aggressive, and draft day could be the start of seeing their ultimate plan. If they’re shedding salaries, especially of rookie-sized deals, my eyebrows are going to raise heading into free agency.

Do you agree with any of the above? And what do you expect from a wider picture of things?

Olson: Where we should wrap up here is how hard it is to pull off these deals, especially in such a tight window like the day of the draft.

But, McDonough has done this before in trading up for Marquese Chriss and has even more assets with expectations for a comeback year. Let’s not forget about his contract expiring two summers from now, either.

And we can also look beyond a move that is solely focused on the draft. They could use one of those two picks to get rid of Tyson Chandler, Jared Dudley or Warren’s contract too if they want more wiggle room for free agency. They could also use one (or both) of those two picks to trade for an experienced NBA player that will be a strong accent for the likes of Booker, Jackson and the top pick.

If Phoenix is on the board at No. 16 and they aren’t enamored with any of the names, that’s absolutely an option they will consider.

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            Southern California guard Elijah Stewart (30) drives on Arizona guard Kobi Simmons during the first half of an NCAA college basketball game, Thursday, Feb. 23, 2017, in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Rick Scuteri) Vanderbilt forward Jeff Roberson (11) drives against Arizona State forward Mickey Mitchell in the first half during an NCAA college basketball game, Sunday, Dec 17, 2017, in Tempe, Ariz. (AP Photo/Rick Scuteri) Southern California guard Jordan McLaughlin, middle, passes the ball between Arizona guard Allonzo Trier and Ryan Anderson (12) during the first half of an NCAA college basketball game, Sunday, Feb. 14, 2016, in Tucson, Ariz. (AP Photo/Rick Scuteri)               St. Bonaventure Bonnies Jaylen Adams (10) celebrates following a basket during the second half of an NCAA basketball game against VCU at the Reilly Center in St. Bonaventure, New York, Saturday, Feb. 7, 2015. St. Bonaventure defeated VCU 73-71. (AP Photo/Jen Fuller)
            Tryggvi Hlinason, C, Valencia

3.0 points, 1.9 rebounds and 0.2 assists per game.

"It was fine. It was my first workout so I really didn't know what to expect. It was good. It was really good."
(Roni Rekomaa/Lehtikuva via AP) Arizona center Dusan Ristic (14) is fouled while trying to drive between Stanford's Reid Travis, left, and Daejon Davis during the second half of an NCAA college basketball game Thursday, March 1, 2018, in Tucson, Ariz. Arizona defeated Stanford 75-67. (AP Photo/Rick Scuteri) Jaren Jackson Jr., C, Michigan State

10.9 points, 5.8 rebounds and 3.0 blocks as a freshman

“Just me being out there gives them a lot of room to operate just because I’m a threat from outside. When D-Book penetrates, he can kick it out to me and if they stay with me, then he has a lot more room.” (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson) Mohamed Bamba, C, Texas

12.9 points, 10.5 rebounds and 3.7 blocks as a freshman.

"I do more and I require less. The Suns are more than a perfect fit for me because it fits with how they are rebuilding and how I kind of want to develop myself and have a full impact coming on as a rookie. It’s just a perfect fit. It’s more so about fit than it is about the pick, for me." (AP Photo/Eric Gay) Duke's Marvin Bagley III (35) shoots over Kansas' Silvio De Sousa (22) during the first half of a regional final game in the NCAA men's college basketball tournament Sunday, March 25, 2018, in Omaha, Neb. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall) Villanova's Jalen Brunson (1) shoots during a practice session for the Final Four NCAA college basketball tournament, Friday, March 30, 2018, in San Antonio. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip) Amine Noua, F, France 

10.0 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.0 assists per game in France this season.

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15.9 points, 8.1 rebounds and 1.6 assists per game as a junior.

(AP Photo/Michael Conroy) Oregon's Troy Brown Jr., left, and Arizona State's Shannon Evans II race for a loose ball during the second half of an NCAA college basketball game Thursday, Feb. 22, 2018, in Eugene, Ore. (AP Photo/Chris Pietsch) FILE - In this Jan. 25, 2018, file photo, Arizona forward Deandre Ayton (13) shoots in the second half during an NCAA college basketball game against Colorado, in Tucson, Ariz. Ayton could be the Phoenix Suns choice with the no. 1 pick in this month's NBA Draft. (AP Photo/Rick Scuteri, File) West Virginia's Jevon Carter (2) passes over Baylor's Manu Lecomte during the first half of an NCAA college basketball game in the Big 12 men's tournament Thursday, March 8, 2018, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel) Elie Okobo, G, LNB Pro A French league

 12.9 points, 4.8 assists with 47.5 percent 2-point and 39.4 percent 3-point shooting.

"(Scouts) think I'm very mature because I play against pros. They like my passing game, my scoring ability and the way I play on the court."
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26.1 points, 6.7 rebounds, 3.1 assists and 40 percent from the three-point line as a senior

"Well in terms of the reputation of where I come from, absolutely (it's an uphill climb). In terms of basketball, I feel like basketball is about the work ethic and what you put into it. Playing against these guys, (the talent of the workout partners) doesn't feel far superior to me."

(@CCAAsportsACSC / Twitter) Rhode Island guard E.C. Matthews (0) shoots in front of Davidson forward Oskar Michelsen (15) and guard KiShawn Pritchett (20) during the first half of an NCAA college basketball championship game in the Atlantic 10 Conference tournament, Sunday, March 11, 2018, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon) Southern California forward Chimezie Metu dunks during the first half of an NCAA college basketball game against UCLA, Saturday, March 3, 2018, in Los Angeles. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill) Ohio State forward Keita Bates-Diop, right, looks to pass around the defense of Gonzaga forward Rui Hachimura (21) during the first half of a second-round game in the NCAA men's college basketball tournament Saturday, March 17, 2018, in Boise, Idaho. (AP Photo/Otto Kitsinger) Kansas guard Malik Newman, left, drives to the basket over Villanova's Mikal Bridges, center, and Omari Spellman, right, during the first half in the semifinals of the Final Four NCAA college basketball tournament, Saturday, March 31, 2018, in San Antonio. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip) Colorado guard George King, front, drives past Arizona State guard Kodi Justice during the first half of an NCAA college basketball game Thursday, Jan. 4, 2018, in Boulder, Colo. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski) Xavier guard J.P. Macura (55) goes for a basket over Florida State guard CJ Walker (2), during the first half of a second-round game in the NCAA college basketball tournament in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday, March 18, 2018. (AP Photo/Mark Humphrey) Virginia's Devon Hall (0) takes questions from the media in the locker room after losing to UMBC in a first-round game in the NCAA men's college basketball tournament in Charlotte, N.C., Friday, March 16, 2018. (AP Photo/Bob Leverone) Cincinnati guard Jacob Evans (1) pulls in a rebound against Georgia State forward Jordan Session, right, in the second half of a first-round game of the NCAA college basketball tournament in Nashville, Tenn., Friday, March 16, 2018. (AP Photo/Mark Humphrey) SMU guard Shake Milton (1) drives to the basket while guarded by Arizona forward Deandre Ayton (13) during an NCAA college basketball game Thursday, Nov. 23, 2017, in the Battle 4 Atlantis tournament in Paradise Island, Bahamas. (Tim Aylen/Bahamas Visual Services Photo via AP) UCLA's Aaron Holiday (3) shoots against St. Bonaventure's Matt Mobley (2) during the first half of a First Four game of the NCAA men's college basketball tournament, Tuesday, March 13, 2018, in Dayton, Ohio. (AP Photo/John Minchillo) Xavier guard Trevon Bluiett (5) drives past Texas Southern guard Donte Clark (1) in the first half of a first-round game of the NCAA college basketball tournament in Nashville, Tenn., Friday, March 16, 2018. (AP Photo/Mark Humphrey) Shannon Evans, G, Arizona State
 16.5 points, 3.3 rebounds, 3.5 assists, 1.4 steals per game as a senior  
“If you’re lucky, you might get seven, eight years out of this so I just want to play as long as I can."

(AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin) Bruce Brown Jr., G, Miami


11.4 points, 7.1 rebounds, 4.0 assists per game as a sophomore

"You want to come out here and definitely kill them. That was my goal, come out and kill, do what I normally do.
"My work ethic, my love for the game can carry me." (AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee) Arizona State's Tra Holder shoots covered by Colorado's McKinley Wright IV during the first half of an NCAA college basketball game in the first round of the Pac-12 men's tournament Wednesday, March 7, 2018, in Las Vegas. (AP Photo/Isaac Brekken) William McDowell-White, G, Brose Bamberg (Australia) 
 "(Playing professionally in Germany) It definitely helped me mature a lot above my years and just mature as a person away from the court. Germany was probably the best decision I made. I think I improved a lot more rather than coming to college."

(Ally Sturm / Twitter)

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“(I want to) gradually get stronger, I don’t want to bulk up too quick. It comes with age.

“Show them I can play, hold my own, play defense, score the ball, pass the ball." (AP Photo/Gregory Payan) Kendrick Nunn, G, Oakland

25.9 points, 4.7 rebounds, 3.8 assists per game as a senior (AP Photo/Duane Burleson) Alan Herndon, F, Wyoming
 11.8 points, 5.7 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 2.2 blocks per game as a senior   
"Throughout these workouts I want to showcase I'm a Swiss army knife. I can do it all. I like to guard multiple positions, step out and shoot the three, just do it all."

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