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Doug, my disgust over the debacle in Pasadena compelled me to chime in.

I'm concerned about the state of the ASU football program in a big way. When you say that 9-3 would be a "great" season for this program, it reinforces my concern. You are content with mediocrity, meaning that anything better than 7 or 8 wins constitutes "great." I've had this fear for a decade. Ostensibly, Lisa Love had this fear, too, which is why she fired DK. Would Oklahoma State be happy with 9-3? Oregon? WVU be happy with 9- 3 (given that Bill Stewart was fired after several 9-4 seasons, we can assume they were not happy)?

Notice that I am intentionally shying away from comparing us to teams like Alabama and Oklahoma so as to avoid the distracting retort that some in the local AZ media have tried to con us with. I'm focusing on Johnnie- come-lately programs. Frankly, I do not understand why we should not aspire to the kind of greatness that the Alabamas and Oklahomas have. But, that's a discussion for another time.

Thanks for reading.

Eric

Thanks for mailing the mailbag Eric. Normally the mailbag can be found on the Doug & Wolf show page. Your e-mail, however, struck a chord that is so common among ASU fans, so we're putting the mailbag up on the front page.

There's an amazing sense of entitlement from ASU fans even though they've earned nothing.I can understand your frustration. Here's the point you're not seeing. ASU fans don't deserve to be any better.

I know, as soon as an ASU booster reads those words they're going to run to Lisa Love and say what a bad guy I am. ASU fans hide from the truth more than any fans in America.

I call it a great season at 9-3 because compared to the support the football team and the whole athletic department receive, You wonder if OSU, UO, or WVU would accept 9-3 but you're comparing apples to oranges. Look at those three programs. All three sell out every game.

Let's look at through the eyes of a high school junior. He's deciding between OSU, UO or WVU. Have you ever been to a game at any one of those schools? The sell-out crowds are so loud. The pre-game tailgates are packed and so much fun. The atmosphere is unbelievable. Why would any kid go to a school that has 20K empty seats for their homecoming when they could play for fans that love their team?

Let's look at it from a coach's stand point. Any young, up-and-coming head coach wants to go to a program where the football program is the talk of the town. That's not ASU. They want a program that has great support even when it's down so they can re-build it. That's not ASU. They want a program that has a history of attracting the best players. That's not ASU. They want a program in a hot recruiting environment or like a Florida, Texas or Southern California. For the most part, that's not ASU.

You're accusing me of settling for mediocrity. It's actually the exact opposite. I think 9-3 is the max that can be achieved with this level of support.

f you want to raise the expectations for ASU football, it's very easy how that's done. Buy more tickets. Create a more electric atmosphere at the games. Donate more money. Build better facilities.

Steve Patterson, Lisa Love and Dennis Erickson can only carry the program as far as the fans take it. When the day comes there are 70,000 fans a game in a new stadium, you'll hear me drop the hammer on a performance like ASU put forth against UCLA. Until then, what did you expect? They played with the same passion their fans have.

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    supercal27 wrote...
    The truth
    Let's be real here. What else is there to do in Eugene, Morgantown, or Stillwater???? There are way too many sporting options here, let alone outdoor/entertainment options for ASU to ever be the talk of the town. They may be the talk of the town for periods in the season, but will NEVER be the attention-getter in their own city that these other schools are. If they are consistently winning championships, they may attract more fans, but when your local school's sports are the only option in town, you can sell out every game and have the truly passionate fan base we are looking for.
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    Steve B wrote...
    Actually Paul
    I am failing to see your point. What you are saying is exactly what Doug is saying... if the last 30 years is full of 5 and 6 loss teams, than 9-3 is a great season. And because the stadium is 3/4 full, ASU can't buy out coaches, can't go get the huge name to turn it around. And before you accuse me of not knowing... I was there when ASU beat Nebraska 19-0 and I was there 3 years later when they lost to powerhouse New Mexico State.
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    Jarrod P. wrote...
    Really?
    Doug hasn't just strolled into town... Anyone can see the program SUCKS!!!! They have gone nowhere forever. EVERY year they pin their hopes on losing just on or two games. What big program does that? Does LSU hope they only lose one this year? Bama? Oklahoma? We HAVE to accept 9-3 or 8-4 because that is all we are capable of. Lisa Love is clueless and CDE must go now. Fans don't care.
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    Jarrod P. wrote...
    ALSO...
    I live 11 miles from D1 football and NEVER have received ANYTHING in the mail, any call, any door to door, nothing in the way of advertisement. NOTHING. I am a University of Michigan man but like the Sun Devils and go to games. But to never get anything at all? The marketing is poor, and the alumni are poor too. Why wouldn't you go to support your team? I would venture that the ASU alumni in the Phoenix area must top 250,000. (no proof, just an opinion). Where are they? The stadium, while old and hard to sit in, is not a total disgrace. The teams have been semi- competitive.
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    Guyinaz wrote...
    Largest state college enrollment
    ASU has more students than any other state college in the country. With the size of the alumni base (myself included), why isn't SDS sold out every Saturday?
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